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some one astrict and some have two, others have bars on each side. Each say bavaria, germany not thailand
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Stamps on china indicate where they were made. The manufacturer's name will be on most of them. Modern items would have to include the country of origin (by international trade laws or agreements).Some might also have the design or pattern name, or a code for it. Hand-painted items also often have a code mark for the painter, the rest is put on with a stamp.
Very old china often only had scratched marks, not stamps. Some cheaper bulk things also lack a proper stamp. Particularly all-white table china is often not stamped, but the required information is in the mould, so it comes out as "engraved" on the item. This might get filled in with the glaze, so look like there is almost nothing there.
Yours says Bavaria, Germany, so that is where it was made. Johann Haviland is the name of the factory. Johann was the son of Charles, an American who set up a pottery in France (where the clay was suitable for the quality he wanted) to make dinnerware for the US market. Johann branched out with a pottery in Bavaria (another suitable clay area). Both businesses went through many changes of owenrship. The Johann Haviland name is currently owned by Rosenthal, another well-known German pottery.
The bars and asterisks could indicate the batches or production line the particular items came from.
The Blue Garland pattern was first made in 1970, but discontinued in the 80s (when the company changed hands again). Being good quality, and not for "everyday" use, many pieces still exist. Replacements for broken ones are fairly easily available at reasonable prices, if you need to complete a set. (Just Google "Johann Haviland")
http://www.antique-china-porcelain-collectibles.com/porcelain_mark.htm
will give you an idea how complex the matter of marks is, though it mostly deals with real antiques. Your set would fall under the heading "collectible" but is not old enough to be antique.
http://www.robbinsnest.com/johann-haviland/
is a good site for replacements, probably cheaper and more reliable than trying on Ebay.
It would be a little easier to be sure about the arrows, if you had put in pictures of what you mean. For next time, you can upload pictures to Flickr or Photobucket, then put the links in here.
>>> You asked this in the USA, Dallas section, which is really meant only for questions relating to the city of Dallas. This kind of question might get better answers in
Games & Recreation - Hobbies section (has a lot of questions about collectibles) Home & Garden is another category read by people likely to know your answer.
Stamps on china indicate where they were made. The manufacturer's name will be on most of them. Modern items would have to include the country of origin (by international trade laws or agreements).Some might also have the design or pattern name, or a code for it. Hand-painted items also often have a code mark for the painter, the rest is put on with a stamp.
Very old china often only had scratched marks, not stamps. Some cheaper bulk things also lack a proper stamp. Particularly all-white table china is often not stamped, but the required information is in the mould, so it comes out as "engraved" on the item. This might get filled in with the glaze, so look like there is almost nothing there.
Yours says Bavaria, Germany, so that is where it was made. Johann Haviland is the name of the factory. Johann was the son of Charles, an American who set up a pottery in France (where the clay was suitable for the quality he wanted) to make dinnerware for the US market. Johann branched out with a pottery in Bavaria (another suitable clay area). Both businesses went through many changes of owenrship. The Johann Haviland name is currently owned by Rosenthal, another well-known German pottery.
The bars and asterisks could indicate the batches or production line the particular items came from.
The Blue Garland pattern was first made in 1970, but discontinued in the 80s (when the company changed hands again). Being good quality, and not for "everyday" use, many pieces still exist. Replacements for broken ones are fairly easily available at reasonable prices, if you need to complete a set. (Just Google "Johann Haviland")
http://www.antique-china-porcelain-collectibles.com/porcelain_mark.htm
will give you an idea how complex the matter of marks is, though it mostly deals with real antiques. Your set would fall under the heading "collectible" but is not old enough to be antique.
http://www.robbinsnest.com/johann-haviland/
is a good site for replacements, probably cheaper and more reliable than trying on Ebay.
It would be a little easier to be sure about the arrows, if you had put in pictures of what you mean. For next time, you can upload pictures to Flickr or Photobucket, then put the links in here.
>>> You asked this in the USA, Dallas section, which is really meant only for questions relating to the city of Dallas. This kind of question might get better answers in
Games & Recreation - Hobbies section (has a lot of questions about collectibles) Home & Garden is another category read by people likely to know your answer.
Why do people act like such cheapskates at garage sales?
Adrianne L
I've been trying to have garage sale to eliminate excess clutter, but many people that stop act like you should put FREE on everything and constantly offer you about 10% of the asking price. It's already cheap enough - like a 12-place setting dinnerware for $20!!! One guy selected a crystal beverage set (24 lovely stemmed goblets) which I had marked $5 and held out his hand. I said "It's five dollars." Then he said "Yeah, so where's the five?" It appeared he expected me to PAY him $5 to take it off my hands. Such affrontery! I'm really getting soured on garage sales.
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it is part of the experience. a guy who will spend $10 for a cigar, will brag how he saved 50 cents on that stemware. don't be so uptight.
it is part of the experience. a guy who will spend $10 for a cigar, will brag how he saved 50 cents on that stemware. don't be so uptight.
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