Thursday, August 22, 2013

What do the different stamps on the back of my blue garland johann haviland china. All bavarian, some astricts?

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some one astrict and some have two, others have bars on each side. Each say bavaria, germany not thailand


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Stamps on china indicate where they were made. The manufacturer's name will be on most of them. Modern items would have to include the country of origin (by international trade laws or agreements).Some might also have the design or pattern name, or a code for it. Hand-painted items also often have a code mark for the painter, the rest is put on with a stamp.

Very old china often only had scratched marks, not stamps. Some cheaper bulk things also lack a proper stamp. Particularly all-white table china is often not stamped, but the required information is in the mould, so it comes out as "engraved" on the item. This might get filled in with the glaze, so look like there is almost nothing there.

Yours says Bavaria, Germany, so that is where it was made. Johann Haviland is the name of the factory. Johann was the son of Charles, an American who set up a pottery in France (where the clay was suitable for the quality he wanted) to make dinnerware for the US market. Johann branched out with a pottery in Bavaria (another suitable clay area). Both businesses went through many changes of owenrship. The Johann Haviland name is currently owned by Rosenthal, another well-known German pottery.

The bars and asterisks could indicate the batches or production line the particular items came from.

The Blue Garland pattern was first made in 1970, but discontinued in the 80s (when the company changed hands again). Being good quality, and not for "everyday" use, many pieces still exist. Replacements for broken ones are fairly easily available at reasonable prices, if you need to complete a set. (Just Google "Johann Haviland")

http://www.antique-china-porcelain-collectibles.com/porcelain_mark.htm
will give you an idea how complex the matter of marks is, though it mostly deals with real antiques. Your set would fall under the heading "collectible" but is not old enough to be antique.
http://www.robbinsnest.com/johann-haviland/
is a good site for replacements, probably cheaper and more reliable than trying on Ebay.

It would be a little easier to be sure about the arrows, if you had put in pictures of what you mean. For next time, you can upload pictures to Flickr or Photobucket, then put the links in here.

>>> You asked this in the USA, Dallas section, which is really meant only for questions relating to the city of Dallas. This kind of question might get better answers in
Games & Recreation - Hobbies section (has a lot of questions about collectibles) Home & Garden is another category read by people likely to know your answer.

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First, I'm assuming you're a "poor college student" or something like that. If not, most of this advice probably won't be particularly applicable.

Now: buy everything you can second hand. There's no point in bankrupting yourself for your first apartment (or any apartment). One exception I would say would be a bed. I don't buy bed's secondhand, but some people are okay with it.

Don't get a huge apartment if it's just you. If you can survive in a studio or 1 bedroom, do so. Again, no point bankrupting yourself when you don't need to.

Check out sites like Craigslist.org and check out the "free" sections. People are always giving away furniture and kitchen stuff when they move away. You can find a lot of decent "starter" stuff that way and save yourself a lot of money. Yard sales are also good for this. You don't need the full kitchen of stuff either. A couple of small to medium sized saucepans with lids, and a large frying pan with a lid is more than enough to start out with unless you're a gourmet cook. Hell, by most people's standards I am a gourmet cook and I still only use 3 or 4 pans. Everything else just isn't truly necessary. It may seem like a good deal to get a 94 or 120 piece kitchen set for $120, but only if you actually use everything. You won't. Go buy the inexpensive (but decent) single pans for $10-$20 each and get the three or four I mentioned. Save the rest of your money for bathroom stuff or sheets for a bed.

If you want semi-decent, cheap stuff new, check out Ikea or the big dollar store type places. You can get a lot of stuff for really cheap if you shop carefully. I bought a couple of inexpensivedecent quality, dinnerware sets (to seat 4 people each) for $14 total at Target too, so if you look around you can find cheap stuff.

Don't try to buy everything at once. Buy the important things (cookware, dinnerware and bathroom stuff as well as a bed) and then gradually accumulate more as time passes. Books are perfectly okay on the floor and a tv isn't essential immediately. If you have a TV, you don't need to spend a lot of money on an entertainment center since most TVs are okay on the floor or a small stack of bricks and a board.

All of these things make you look like a poor college student, but odds are most people around you will understand that. And it's much better to look like a poor college student when you actually are one than looking like one 10 years after you've graduated because you spent all your money while you were in school and are in debt up to your eyeballs.




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